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Woodworking
Adhesives, Sanding and Finishing
Nordy
Finishing Q&A
By Rockler
Content Team
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Nordy Rockler founded Rockler Woodworking and Hardware in
1954. Over the last half century, Nordy has spent thousands
of hours in the workshop, building projects and perfecting
his finishing techniques. Hes regarded as a finishing expert,
and has developed a number of Rockler exclusive finishes.
We recently met with Nordy to discuss the art of finishing
and some of his favorite products.
Woodworkers
often say that finishing is the part of the process they struggle
with most. Do you share that struggle, and why do you think
that is?
Nordy: Years ago it was more of a struggle because there wasnt
a variety of good products available. In the earliest times
a person would just use an oil pigment, wipe on stain, maybe
a coat of shellac as a sealer, and then a varnish, which maybe
took 24 hours or more to dry. Because it was so slow to dry
youd get a lot of dust particles settling in it. Today we
have such a multitude of products available it is much simpler,
especially once you get familiar with the products and use
the ones you like. Finishing is the culmination of doing a
project. You can put a lot of time and money into the material,
and you can botch the whole thing with a bad finishing job.
Finishing is a critical part of the whole project.
When
did you develop such a strong interest in finishing?
Nordy: Well, when we started the business. Finishes are a
crucial part of doing woodworking, so it was just sort of
a natural process that I became interested in it. Through
looking at various lines and talking to different salespeople,
I learned a lot about finishing. I tested a lot of products,
and I still am today. To keep on top of it, you really have
to keep on trying them and testing them.
What
is the main key in getting a great finish on a woodworking
project?
Nordy: Two things. First of all, you have to be very patient
dont rush it. And the crucial thing is to test it on some
scrap wood and make sure you get the desired effect you really
want. Another reason for testing is you have a schedule of
finishing materials test them all the way through the whole
process, from beginning to end, and you will get a really
good feel for what the end result will be.
How
do you decide which finish to put on a particular piece?
Nordy: The type of project really dictates what type of finish
you put on it. If youre building cabinets or a bookcase, an
oil-type finish is very simple and pleasing, and very easy
to repair. I wouldnt recommend an oil finish for a dining
room table, because you need more protection. You need something
harder, more durable, and waterproof. It all depends on what
youre building. It also has to do with personal preference.
Do you want a gloss, a semi-gloss, a flat finish? Does the
piece need a lot of protection? Does the piece need to match
another piece in the room? Theres a lot of considerations.
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What
are the benefits of shellac and Rocklers
shellac kits?
Nordy: Shellac is a different type of material, and not necessarily
used as a top coat. Its a multi-purpose product. It was very
popular in the 1700s, and a lot of the antiques were finished
with it because that was the only finish available at the
time. It has its advantages. It dries very fast and gives
you a nice appearance. But it does have its drawbacks. It
is not completely water resistant, and it can be brittle.
Sometimes its the finish you have to use, especially for the
furniture restoration people who want to get a piece as close
to the original as possible. The pre-mixed stuff you buy off
the shelf in a hardware store has a limited shelf life. Its
usually only good for six months after you open it up. If
you buy shellac in flake form you can mix it yourself very
easily just by mixing with denatured alcohol in different
proportions. If you want to use it for a sealer, or wash coat,
you use a thin solution, what they call a two-pound cut shellac.
If youre using it as a top coat or finish you want it a little
thicker, you want a four-pound cut. We came up with our new
shellac kit because we had previously been selling it by the
pound, which is a lot of shellac flake for the average consumer.
So we packaged it into a smaller 2 oz. size, and they can
make a two-, three- or four-pound cut, whichever they want,
and it has a graduated scale on the container showing what
proportions of denatured alcohol to shellac to use. It simplified
the use of it. Were also going to be offering it in a half-pound
container.
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On
what projects does a woodworker want to use a polyurethane
gel?
Nordy: You can use it anywhere you want a urethane finish. Urethanes
give you a hard, durable, tough and, in most cases, waterproof
finish. A lot of people prefer the gel type for application
as opposed to the liquid type you have to brush on. Its just
a question of personal taste.
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When
did you develop a relationship with Sam Maloof, who is regarded
as one of this countrys greatest woodworking craftsmen?
Nordy: I met Sam about 20 years ago at the Southern California
Woodworkers Association. They had a big event. That was the
first time I met him, and I visited his home, which is really
like a museum. Hes a great collector himself. He collects
Navajo rugs, and he collects pottery. He used to trade some
of his stuff for Navajo rugs and pottery. We have a nice relationship.
Rockler packages Sams
poly/oil finish. The mere fact Sam Maloof still uses it
gives credence to the product.
Another
highly-regarded finishing expert is Michael Dresdner. How
did you meet him?
Nordy: I knew him because of his work. Hes a very popular
writer and has written a couple of books. I met him a few
years ago at a trade show. We sell his books and he writes
articles for Woodworkers Journal. Hes a contributing editor
to our finishing department.
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WunderCote,
a water-based, wipe-on polyurethane finish, is one of Rocklers
newest products. What are the benefits of WunderCote?
Nordy: Its so easy to use. Its in a flip-top bottle, and you
just pour it out and use a foam rubber brush over the surface.
It dries in about 20 or 30 minutes, although our label says
one or two hours. It doesnt require much sanding with 220
grit paper between coats, then you can re-coat it. Ive done
that in half an hour after I applied. it. Whats nice about
a water-based polyurethane is it drys faster, is very easy
to apply, and easy to clean up. Whats different about our
finish is others tend to have a plastic look to them when
theyre finished. Ours has a slightly amber cast to it so it
looks more like a varnish finish.
Is
there anything else youd like to add about the finishing process?
Nordy: Like any skill or acquired labor, the worst part is
fear of doing it. Half the battle is just trying it. Theres
such an abundance of products out there that theres something
for everybody. Theres just no end to products. There should
be something anybody can apply for a very professional-looking
finish.
Were
constantly on the lookout for new products that were testing.
We try to have a real wide selection on the internet and in
our stores. Usually in each store theres someone that specializes
in finishing, and then we have classes at our stores. Mostly
its getting up the nerve to try it and getting used to the
products youre using. In a lot of cases its fun, especially
when you have a beautiful project and you want to put the
finishing touch on it that enhances the whole project.
See Rocklers Finishing
Guide.
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